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in time to avoid the fiscal cliff, and that's what our focus issen ob this morning. for his part, president obama says he's modestly optimistic they can work things out. even if a deal is thrown together, senator harry reid says what they come up with could be imperfect and some people aren't going to like it. bringen in independent new york stock exchange trader joining us from new york. good to see you. >> good to see you, alison. thanks for having me. >> as you said, washington has been kicking the can down the road. so what are the chances of a real deal going through at the very last minute? things sound a little more optimistic last night, if you listened to president obama. >> i think they have to sound optimistic. the last thing they want to do is not sound optimistic. here's the problem. we've come right to the 11th hour. the fact there's going to be a substantive deal that comes out in the 11th hour is probably nailed to zero. in my sense, it's easier to go over the cliff. then there's clarity, right? taxes up, spending cut. the market will know what is goi
in time to avoid the fiscal cliff, and that's what our focus issen ob this morning. for his part, president obama says he's modestly optimistic they can work things out. even if a deal is thrown together, senator harry reid says what they come up with could be imperfect and some people aren't going to like it. bringen in independent new york stock exchange trader joining us from new york. good to see you. >> good to see you, alison. thanks for having me. >> as you said, washington...
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it will matter quite a bit whether or not they are able to get a fiscal cliff deal done in the near future. somebody clears the decks to do other things, things that might not be quite as either controversial or may not matter as much to the economy. so if you have a long fight over immigration, that's not a great thing but it's better than having a fight that leads to a debt ceiling default. the question is whether or not they are able to move past this in a way that allows for making agreements going forward or whether or not we end up in the essentially endless series of smaller fiscal cliffs this year. things get pushed forward for two weeks, two months, three months at a time and another debt ceiling in early 2013. if that's the case, there's going to be a lot more uncertainty and the structure will be there a lot more, very angry, a lot more tense, a lot more bitter, 11th hour negotiations going forward. >> mike, what sectors or areas are you watching in 2013? >> i think what's interesting is that the housing revival has obviously been embraced by wall street. a lot of direct housing
it will matter quite a bit whether or not they are able to get a fiscal cliff deal done in the near future. somebody clears the decks to do other things, things that might not be quite as either controversial or may not matter as much to the economy. so if you have a long fight over immigration, that's not a great thing but it's better than having a fight that leads to a debt ceiling default. the question is whether or not they are able to move past this in a way that allows for making...
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. >> alison, i have no idea whether we'll get a fiscal cliff deal done or not. i do have a pretty good idea as to how we got into this gigantic pickle in the first place. >> now we've passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans, but it's a deal with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient, but costly to government expire in ten years time. >> both houses of congress have now passed a package of tax relief that will protect the middle class. >> when it came time for the cuts to expire, the u.s. is just emerging from the worst recession since the great depression. so president obama agreed to extend the tax cuts for two more years in exchange for congress extending federal emergency unemployment benefits. those cuts are expensive. if they're extended by 2020, the bush-era tax cuts will be responsible for more than half the total national debt. democrats insist that taxes go up for the wealthy but stay in place permanently for
. >> alison, i have no idea whether we'll get a fiscal cliff deal done or not. i do have a pretty good idea as to how we got into this gigantic pickle in the first place. >> now we've passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans, but it's a deal with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient, but costly to government expire in ten years...
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. >>> if bridging the partisan divide wasn't challenge enough, get ready because the fiscal cliff is far from a done deal. vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell brokered a deal and, yes, it cleared the senate late last night. but no, the republican-controlled house of representatives hasn't voted on this yet. they are going to convene in about 30 minutes. house democratic caucus is meeting in less than an hour while the house gop leaders are meeting at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. both parties undoubtedly laying the groundwork for the fiscal cliff showdown that will unfold between its 435 house members. one of those members is democratic congressman from michigan. he's kind enough to join me. thank you for being with us today. first of all, if you could get me up to speed on the decision to make a decision v you heard anything about the possibility there might be a vote today with your members? >> i haven't heard directly. i think there will be. i think the vote last night in the senate set the stage. it was overwhelming. we're going to have a caucus democrats and republicans will
. >>> if bridging the partisan divide wasn't challenge enough, get ready because the fiscal cliff is far from a done deal. vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell brokered a deal and, yes, it cleared the senate late last night. but no, the republican-controlled house of representatives hasn't voted on this yet. they are going to convene in about 30 minutes. house democratic caucus is meeting in less than an hour while the house gop leaders are meeting at 1:00 p.m. eastern time....
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can you explain what that means, and how would that make the fiscal cliff negotiations different? >> yeah. the vast majority of our decision-making happens the at an automatic, unconscious level. the challenge and the problem -- i'm talking about most of our thinking. the challenge we have with that regard is the fact that most of the filtering system that we have that makes those decisions was put in place for us when we were small children. as a result, really smart people can make really dumb decisions, or grown-ups can behave childishly. if a leader is more conscious of the patterns, they can cut them off and maintain a great degree of consciousness and therefore maturity in making decisions and acting on those. >> but we see both sides really dug in. we now seem to be in an impasse. are you saying that there's childish behavior? we take about transformative leadership perspective. how do you advocate and advise, let's say, speaker boehner and president obama? how do we move past that? >> you know, one of the fundamental problems we run into when we think about the unconscious
can you explain what that means, and how would that make the fiscal cliff negotiations different? >> yeah. the vast majority of our decision-making happens the at an automatic, unconscious level. the challenge and the problem -- i'm talking about most of our thinking. the challenge we have with that regard is the fact that most of the filtering system that we have that makes those decisions was put in place for us when we were small children. as a result, really smart people can make...
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cliff. the deadline is less than 48 hours away and as to whether they can get it done, the president says he's hopeful. >> i'm modestly ll lly optimis an agreement can be achieved. let's make sure that middle class families and the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> both houses of congress are meeting in a rare sunday session. the house an hour later at 2:00. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin now with the look at a chance for a deal and what's on the table. >> alison, here in washington, there is still hope a deal can be cut in time to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday, the president was at work here in the white house but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points and revenue figures to try to reach an agreement all sides can stomach. the baseline for the president, any bipartisan bill would have to extend unemployment insurance that would affect some 2 million americans and increase taxes for the hig
cliff. the deadline is less than 48 hours away and as to whether they can get it done, the president says he's hopeful. >> i'm modestly ll lly optimis an agreement can be achieved. let's make sure that middle class families and the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> both houses of congress are meeting in a rare sunday session. the house an hour later at 2:00. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin now with the look at a chance...
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. >>> the deadline to make a deal and avoid the fiscal cliff less than 48 hours away now. the senate and the house convening this afternoon for a rare sunday session with the hopes of reaching a vote possibly tonight. but can they really get a deal done? yesterday i spoke with sheila, the former chairman of the fdic and she's been through some tough negotiatiions before. this is what she had to say about the chances of a deal and what might be included. >> this should have been resolved long ago and i do think, actually, they are going to get a deal, but i think more along the lines down the road. at least at this point that we'll get meaningful deficit reduction, certainly not meaningful tax reform. i do think, though, perhaps a permanent extension of the lower tax rates for those making at least under $500,000. the payroll tax cut on the other hand will go away, i think, is highly unlikely and that is going to impact a lot of workers. i think they will make some decisions this weekend and a good chance that it will pass and become law. that is the good news. the bad news
. >>> the deadline to make a deal and avoid the fiscal cliff less than 48 hours away now. the senate and the house convening this afternoon for a rare sunday session with the hopes of reaching a vote possibly tonight. but can they really get a deal done? yesterday i spoke with sheila, the former chairman of the fdic and she's been through some tough negotiatiions before. this is what she had to say about the chances of a deal and what might be included. >> this should have been...
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most importantly, he was very, very pessimistic about getting anything done before we reach that fiscal cliff. listen to what he said. >> the speaker just has a few d days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> let me kind of lay out the state of play. i'll try to keep it out as much as possible. this is something everybody is focused on. the ball is in the senate's court right now. so what senator reid, who you saw earlier, and the president, what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can craft what the president called a scaled-back bill, which is what he campaigned on. raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is whether or not they can put all that together in a way to get enough republican votes in order to pass the senate and then would have to have enough votes to pass the house as well. whether they can do that in the next few days is an open question. >> just procedurall
most importantly, he was very, very pessimistic about getting anything done before we reach that fiscal cliff. listen to what he said. >> the speaker just has a few d days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> let me kind of lay out the state of play. i'll try to keep it out as much as possible. this is something everybody is focused on. the ball is in the senate's court right now. so what senator reid,...
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lawmakers have been so consumed by the fiscal cliff that it appears little was done to extend the 2010 payroll tax cuts, put in place by president obama two years ago in order to boost the economy. so what does it mean to your wallet? here is how much less you'll bring home if it expires. paychecks shrink $50 a month for those earning $30,000 a year. it shrinks $83 a month for those earning $50,000 a year. and $167 a month for those earning $100,000 a year. now, let's switch to the fiscal cliff. and what that is going to cost you. without a deal, you'll be paying lots more in tachxes. say you're single and working hard, you don't have kids, you earn $80,000 a year. if it does not go into effect, you'll pay an additional $3,000 more than what you already pay in taxes. the middle class families will get hit harder, two kids, both parents work. together you earn $80,000 a year. guess what, if there is no deal, you would owe $6,000 more in taxes next year. with so many variables, the question is how is wall street reacting? the stock market dipped every day last week. question is, what is
lawmakers have been so consumed by the fiscal cliff that it appears little was done to extend the 2010 payroll tax cuts, put in place by president obama two years ago in order to boost the economy. so what does it mean to your wallet? here is how much less you'll bring home if it expires. paychecks shrink $50 a month for those earning $30,000 a year. it shrinks $83 a month for those earning $50,000 a year. and $167 a month for those earning $100,000 a year. now, let's switch to the fiscal...
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cliff, it would be tough for the markets. marks are telling us they think there's been a momentary judgment call, they've done the right thing and the markets think something's going to get done here. so a solution is priced into the market here. if you don't get a solution, it's going to be a problem. maybe not the first day but certainly a problem. i've talked to congressmen, you have, too, they have 2008 and t.a.r.p. fresh in their memory. remember when they didn't pass the bank bailout? >> sure. >> wall street said, that's not going to work and the stock market went down 700 points. they have that fresh in their memory. they don't want -- they don't want to do anything like that. so they're being very careful here, i think. >> christine, tell us about some of the things that were, at least on the senate side, tax goodies, things saved, some of the things that we didn't lose because of the agreement on the senate side. >> it's interesting, when you look at, for example, write-off for teachers for supplies they get for the
cliff, it would be tough for the markets. marks are telling us they think there's been a momentary judgment call, they've done the right thing and the markets think something's going to get done here. so a solution is priced into the market here. if you don't get a solution, it's going to be a problem. maybe not the first day but certainly a problem. i've talked to congressmen, you have, too, they have 2008 and t.a.r.p. fresh in their memory. remember when they didn't pass the bank bailout?...
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they will voluntarily where "come together" to urge politicians to get a deal done on the fiscal cliff before the end of the year. and i wasn't very surprised because howard schultz has been very outspoken. we sat down earlier this month to talk about the fiscal cliff and the risks to u.s. businesses, to the world economy and to the average u.s. citizen if we don't have a deal, if we don't get it done. i want you to take a listen to what he fold me. >> the real difference today versus perhaps any other time in history is that this single issue has a seismic effect on the rest of the world, that we have never been as connected and the domino effect of a bad outcome here will have significant negative consequences domestically and around the world. not the least of which will be the level -- fracturing of confidence in the united states of america. >> seismic and significant. very powerful words. how could this play out for americans if we don't have a deal? what will that feel like to them, howard? >> i think there will be tremendous personal pressure on people who are going to see thei
they will voluntarily where "come together" to urge politicians to get a deal done on the fiscal cliff before the end of the year. and i wasn't very surprised because howard schultz has been very outspoken. we sat down earlier this month to talk about the fiscal cliff and the risks to u.s. businesses, to the world economy and to the average u.s. citizen if we don't have a deal, if we don't get it done. i want you to take a listen to what he fold me. >> the real difference today...
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lawmakers have just three days left to get a deal done in time to avoid the fiscal cliff. even if a deal is thrown together at the 11th hour, senate majority leader harry reid says what they come up with will be imperfect. and some people aren't going to like it. i spoke with independent new york stock exchange trader kenny polkari earlier and asked them how wall street is reacting to the looming fiscal cliff. >> we've come right to the 11th hour. the -- the fact that there's going to be a substantive deal that comes out of this in the 11th hour is probably nil to zero, right? essentially in my sense, it's easier to go over the cliff. then there's clarity, right? taxes will go up, spending will get cut. the market will know what is going to happen. it can only get better from there because then you'll get legislators that come to the table, that try to cut taxes and raise some spending, and they'll argue it from a positive point of view and stand up and say, rah-rah, look what we, did right? it won't get any worse if we go over the cliff. if there's a bandaid, it leaves co
lawmakers have just three days left to get a deal done in time to avoid the fiscal cliff. even if a deal is thrown together at the 11th hour, senate majority leader harry reid says what they come up with will be imperfect. and some people aren't going to like it. i spoke with independent new york stock exchange trader kenny polkari earlier and asked them how wall street is reacting to the looming fiscal cliff. >> we've come right to the 11th hour. the -- the fact that there's going to be...
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. >> that's obviously jon talking about the fiscal cliff. but he also said yesterday that he thinks that the whole concept of putting any armed police officers at schools should be done at the local level, if at all. the big push at the nra is to make it a federal program and it should be funded by the federal government by congress. so it does not look like there's going to be a lot of support for that right now. i've been struck talking to republicans sources. republican sources at how turned off a lot of people were by wayne louisiana pair. more so with the tone and the way he delivered the message. i talked to one republican in congress who said that it seemed like it was a time war. he was very aggressive and he didn't seem to be sort of getting the sentiment of where we are now. >> so listening to lindsey graham saying there's not much we can do to stop someone who is not wired right and talking to the number of lawmakers that you have talked to, after the first of the year when dianne feinstein says she's going to introduce this bill,
. >> that's obviously jon talking about the fiscal cliff. but he also said yesterday that he thinks that the whole concept of putting any armed police officers at schools should be done at the local level, if at all. the big push at the nra is to make it a federal program and it should be funded by the federal government by congress. so it does not look like there's going to be a lot of support for that right now. i've been struck talking to republicans sources. republican sources at how...
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to be a huge problem. >> we are dangerously close to the fiscal cliff. now, in all fairness, not all of it hits on new year's day but some of it does. the white house, we have a white house source who has said this. let me just read this to you. it says we believe very strongly a reasonable package can get majorities in both houses. the only thing that would prevent it is if senator mcconnell and speaker boehner don't cooperate. this is from the white house yesterday. do you believe that to be the case? >> no, i don't believe that to be the case. listen, a year ago august when the president was negotiating with the speaker, they were very close to the big deal that needs to be struck. and this isn't a one party or a one house problem. this is leaders of both parties and all branches of the government are not willing to make the deal that they know they have to make, and everybody wants their stuff but doesn't want to give up, you know, what they don't want to give up. >> you know, we're showing pictures right now of john boehner and president obama. john
to be a huge problem. >> we are dangerously close to the fiscal cliff. now, in all fairness, not all of it hits on new year's day but some of it does. the white house, we have a white house source who has said this. let me just read this to you. it says we believe very strongly a reasonable package can get majorities in both houses. the only thing that would prevent it is if senator mcconnell and speaker boehner don't cooperate. this is from the white house yesterday. do you believe that...
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cliff. 48% of those polled say a deal is not likely. that optimism is waning, though when the poll was done earlier this month, 59% said a deal was likely. >>> former braves great andruw jones is free on a $2,500 bond this morning after being arrested outside of atlanta. he was arrested on a battery charge. the gwinnett county detention center said there was a domestic dispute between he and his life. >>> the number of extremely obese preschoolers has dropped slightly over the last decade, according to the centerses for disease control and prevention. researchers called the decline modest but say it's encouraging. the cdc adds that part of the decrease could be attributed to awareness campaigns that encourage physical activity and healthy eating. >>> before heading back to d.c. to try to avoid heading off the fiscal cliff, president obama and the first lady kept up a christmas tradition. they visited marines at a base in hawaii thanking them for their service. mrs. obama and their daughters, by the way, won't cut short their vacation. t
cliff. 48% of those polled say a deal is not likely. that optimism is waning, though when the poll was done earlier this month, 59% said a deal was likely. >>> former braves great andruw jones is free on a $2,500 bond this morning after being arrested outside of atlanta. he was arrested on a battery charge. the gwinnett county detention center said there was a domestic dispute between he and his life. >>> the number of extremely obese preschoolers has dropped slightly over the...
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. >>> and six days and counting until we hit the fiscal cliff. the president is cutting short his hawaiian vacation to go back to work. we'll look at whether a deal is likely to get done. >>> and not what people in alabama wanted for christmas. tornadoes ripped through the south. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could and i was just praying for my safety. and i knew that -- i prayed that the church stayed put. rsal] ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪ yeah who's it, who's it huh? ♪ ♪ willy's back with a brand new beat now, ♪ ♪ yeah doin' it doin' it up! ♪ heyyy yeah, tryin' to bite my style! ♪ ♪ heyyy yeah, how you like me now? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! >>> we told you last hour president obama is spending his last few hours in hawaii before returng early to washington. he's expected to arrive tomorrow, just five days ahead of the fiscal cliff, which includes an across the board tax hike that congress has tried but failed to undo. cnn's dana bash is with us from washington, our senior
. >>> and six days and counting until we hit the fiscal cliff. the president is cutting short his hawaiian vacation to go back to work. we'll look at whether a deal is likely to get done. >>> and not what people in alabama wanted for christmas. tornadoes ripped through the south. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could and i was just praying for my safety. and i knew that -- i prayed that the church stayed put. rsal] ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪...